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Re: [xsl] alternative to repeatedly walking the ancestor axis in 1.0

From: "Dimitre Novatchev" <dnovatchev@--------->
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Date: 8/4/2008 2:08:00 PM
>> P.S. You seems to be obsessed with an optimization of ancestor walks.
>> Are you sure you have a problem in the first place?
>
> Obsessed is the wrong word - perhaps "mildly interested" is more
> accurate - but yes I would say it's a problem to have to walk the
> ancestor axis for every node.  Why?   It can be expensive depending on
> the tree model and it prevents potential streaming optimisations.
>
> And of course, when the application is large enough and used by enough
> people, a slight performance tweak can save a lot of money.


Then simply use keys as shown in my first reply to this thread.


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On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 4:45 AM, Andrew Welch <andrew.j.welch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> > Saxon walks the ancestor axis when you use the lang() function. I think it's
>>> > used too rarely to be worth optimizing.
>>>
>>> So (for Saxon anyway) doing:
>>>
>>> test="lang('foo', .)"
>>>
>>> is pretty much the same as:
>>>
>>> test="ancestor-or-self::*/@xml:lang = 'foo'"
>>>
>>> except that the lang() function should return true if the lang tested
>>> is a subset of that declared in the attribute.
>>
>> No. See: http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions/#func-lang
>>
>> fn:lang($testlang as xs:string?, $node as node()) as xs:boolean
>>
>> "This function tests whether the language of $node, or the context item if the second argument is omitted, as specified by xml:lang attributes is the same as, or is a sublanguage of, the language specified by $testlang."
>>
>> Please notice "sublanguage" word.
>
> That's what I read, I noticed it!  I think I may have got it the wrong
> way around, but the principle is still the same: you get a bit more
> functionality using lang() than you do with just checking for the
> attribute.
>
> If you disagree, please say a little more than "no" with a quote.
>
>
>> P.S. You seems to be obsessed with an optimization of ancestor walks.
>> Are you sure you have a problem in the first place?
>
> Obsessed is the wrong word - perhaps "mildly interested" is more
> accurate - but yes I would say it's a problem to have to walk the
> ancestor axis for every node.  Why?   It can be expensive depending on
> the tree model and it prevents potential streaming optimisations.
>
> And of course, when the application is large enough and used by enough
> people, a slight performance tweak can save a lot of money.
>
> --
> Andrew Welch
> http://andrewjwelch.com
> Kernow: http://kernowforsaxon.sf.net/


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