On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Simon St.Laurent <simonstl@s...>wrote:

> Uche Ogbuji wrote:
>
>> I read this, and I decided not to comment, because there is not much nice
>> to say.
>>
>> Goddess knows XML has its problems but in effect this guys is saying "I
>> designed an XML app using XML in a very dumb way, and the app disappointed
>> me.  The fault must lie with XML".
>>
>> Almost every point he touches on is one that I've spent a decade advising
>> clients to deal with successfully.
>>
>
> Fair enough, but this was in 2000 - when I think the XML hype was at its
> height.  I mostly pointed to it as lessons learned, though by some more than
> others!
>

Yeah, fair enough in turn.


I wouldn't say that the fault lies with XML - but I'd happily say that the
> fault lies with common practices around XML, practices that I still hear
> regularly in conversations about how people would like to handle their data.
>

Amen.


 Bottom line: use XML where it's best suited, and employ good XML and
>> systems design.  I know.  Obvious, right?  :)
>>
>
> In 2009, to people who know a fair amount about XML - yes.  To the rest of
> the world - I'm not so sure!
>

Yeah, I should know, having lived through the backlash among Pythonistas,
and having worked hard to strike the right balance, e.g.:

http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2005/08/24/py-xml.html


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