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Re: [xml-dev] XML support in browsers?

From: Robert Koberg <rob@------.--->
To: Dan Vint <dvint@-----.--->
Date: 6/5/2009 7:41:00 PM
On Jun 5, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Dan Vint wrote:

> Thanks I don't really need to serve the content this way and I don't  
> have control of the server side. My audience is wide so I need to  
> consider if I want to cut some one off. By serving the content  
> dynamically I can save some trouble the next time I update the  
> presentation, but its not a show stopper if I have to do it this way.
>
> Do people agree with Peter Hunsberger in that:
>
> "I think the industry has somewhat decided to ignore client side  
> XSLT and moved on. "

Unfortunately, I would agree that XSL is ignored (despised?). I  
wouldn't say they moved on because they were never there. JSON has a  
better story in that you can cross domains easily and can be used with  
simple JS programming.


>
>
> Wouldn't web search and other functionality be better if we didn't  
> have presentation based content as the main source on the web?

I am not sure what you mean here, but google is built to understand  
HTML in the wild.

-Rob

>
>
> ..dan
>
> At 02:12 PM 6/5/2009, Michael Kay wrote:
>> I should imagine the vast majority of people with a computer that  
>> has been
>> purchased or updated in the last five years will have no difficulty
>> displaying web pages that rely on client-side XSLT 1.0 support in the
>> browser.
>>
>> If your target audience includes mobile devices, or people with  
>> ancient
>> computers (e.g. the elderly at home, third-world countries, or  
>> underfunded
>> schools or charities) then you might still have a few problems.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Michael Kay
>> http://www.saxonica.com/
>> http://twitter.com/michaelhkay
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Dan Vint [mailto:dvint@d...]
>> > Sent: 05 June 2009 18:55
>> > To: xml-dev@l...
>> > Subject: [xml-dev] XML support in browsers?
>> >
>> > What is the state of using XML (not xhtml) and xslt
>> > stylesheets to serve up documents on the client side with a
>> > browser? I'm refactoring a website of mine to manage the
>> > content in XML.
>> >
>> > I'll be building some XSLT to produce XHTML from this
>> > content, I was just wondering if it is safe to serve the XML
>> > directly or should I just generate static XHTML and place
>> > that on the server?
>> >
>> > I'm suspecting that the older browsers are still out there
>> > and that my answer is going to be use the static HTML.
>> > Assuming that, any speculation on when we might be able to do
>> > this? Is there interest in the industry to do this?
>> >
>> > ..dan
>> > --------------------------------------------------------------
>> > -------------
>> > Danny Vint
>> >
>> > Panoramic Photography
>> > http://www.dvint.com
>> >
>> > voice: 502-749-6179
>> >
>> >
>> >
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> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Danny Vint
>
> Panoramic Photography
> http://www.dvint.com
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