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Re: [xml-dev] What is declarative XML? (And what's not)

From: Greg Hunt <greg@----------.--->
To: XML Developers List <xml-dev@-----.---.--->
Date: 6/2/2009 6:44:00 AM
Fuzziness is not only a feature of quantum mechanics, its a core feature of
human communication... and that fuzziness is what causes Roger's desire for
self-contained/processing-semantics-free and processing contexst-free
documents to break down.  How do you exclude assumed semantics?

I'm also not convinced that Len is trying to be intelligible.

Greg

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Kurt Cagle <kurt.cagle@g...> wrote:

> Oh, god, we're entering into the world of quantum XML!!
>
> Overall, however, I'm not sure this is the most accurate conceptual
> metaphor. I'm much more inclined to see various potentially overlapping
> models as being frames of reference in describing reality, in essence more
> of a relativistic approach, with transformations acting as tensors mapping
> completely or incompletely between these frames of reference.
>
> The problem with contemporary computational semantics (RDF et al) is that
> assertions are binary - there is absolutely nothing in RDF that can be used
> to view assertions in a stochastic or fuzzy manner, which is one of the
> fundamental characteristics of quantum systems. You can make a reasonably
> strong case for being able to make logical inferences with RDF - this was
> what it grew out of, of course. However, there's no formal mechanism in RDF
> as it stands right now to be able to say "the probability or strength of
> assertion X is 0.75". That's not to say that this couldn't be introduced,
> mind you, and I'm not so sure that it's necessarily a bad idea, though the
> processing becomes considerably more complex at that point once you do make
> that step.
>
> Kurt Cagle
> Managing Editor
> http://xmlToday.org <http://xmltoday.org/>
>
>
>   On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Len Bullard <cbullard@h...> wrote:
>
>> The concept analogizes semantic coherence to interferometric visibility
>> and
>> semantic intensity to intent of communicative speech act as expressed in
>> the
>> syntax.
>>
>> Treat the name and label particles like wave functions where each element
>> has intensity.
>>
>> What would the coherence/decoherence properties of RDF be contrasted to
>> HTML?  I think the coherence length of RDF statements would be better
>> because they are unentangled until related.
>>
>> len
>>
>>
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