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Re: [xml-dev] Abuse of this list

From: Ian Graham <ian.graham@--------.-->
To: Len Bullard <cbullard@------.--->
Date: 6/17/2007 9:53:00 PM
Do any mailing lists have written charters to restrict types of reuse 
for contributed content?  I have never seen anything like that, nor have 
I seen sig lines referencing individual contributor's copyright 
policies. Either of those might,  at a minimum might, make someone think 
twice about reusing material....

I agree entirely with Len's comments, but as there is currently nothing 
to proscribe such reuse (and indeed the general tendency to encourage 
it), perhaps a written, gentle reminder to the contrary would help??

Ian

Len Bullard wrote:
> That's an interesting question.  Can they abuse the list or just the
> authors?  I've had posts from XML-Dev being repurposed at Stylus and online
> magazines for some time now.  There have been instances of having whole
> concepts lifted, phrases used as original when they are cribbed and so on.
> I'd more or less accepted it because chasing a copyright violator is the
> author's financial burden to bear and who can afford that?  For the most
> part, I don't care enough.
>
> Today Google's SpyTrux can prowl the streets and snap images of your 13 year
> old daughter playing on the Slip and Slide in your front yard and publish
> that with your street address and directions to your house.  We are told
> this is legal because it isn't different from the view of any person driving
> by your house.  That the image will be indexed into the world's most
> accessible search engine for anyone to review isn't noticed by the paid
> legal pundits for Google.  They remove the high publicity images (images of
> protestors at abortion clinics), but your kids are still up there.
>
> I warned you.  Unless local filtering is a part of the web, unless
> permissions for view AND review are part of its infrastructure, it's abuse
> is not only inevitable but legion.
>
> No one cared.  Everyone was making money.  We wanted it to be as 'easy and
> simple' as it could be for the programmer's so we didn't do any of the hard
> work the pioneers in the hypertext field said was required to field a
> socially responsible web.  Instead, we have the WWW.  We forged our own
> chains.
>
> So suck it up.  The damage is done.  Undoing it will require legislation and
> you are going to protest that more than what Stylus has done, but
> unfortunately, few care enough to act until the knock is on their own door.
>
> len
>
>
> From: Richard Tobin [mailto:richard@i...] 
>
> I see that a company called Stylus Studio is republishing xml-dev in
> the form of a blog.  Fair enough.  But they are making selected words
> from postings into links to their products.  So the word "downloaded"
> in my announcement of LTXML2 is a link to downloading their product;
> the word "manual" is a link to their manuals; the word "bugs" is a
> link to their criticism of a competing product.
>
> Modifying other people's articles in this way seems to me dishonest,
> if not an outright copyright violation.
>
>
>
>
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