<span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sorry, it was a hacked up attempt at a
simple example.  I’ll try to take more care with my next submission.<o:p></o:p>

<span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>











<span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From: Radu Cernuta
[mailto:radu.cernuta@g...] 

Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007
12:02 PM

To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jeff
 Lowery</st1:PersonName>

Cc: noah_mendelsohn@u...;
xml-dev@l...

Subject: Erado UCEI: 4.0 Re:
[xml-dev] RELAX NG equivalent of <xsd:any
processContents="lax">?<o:p></o:p>



<span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p>

<span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I took a better look and you are right, you have also crossed rule 4.6.
But if you try: 



Test.rng:<o:p></o:p>



<span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>

<?xml version="1.0"?>

<grammar

 xmlns=" http://relaxng.org/ns/structure/1.0"<o:p></o:p>





<span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> ns="
http://foo.org/bar">



   <start>

       <ref name="children"></ref>

   </start><o:p></o:p>





<span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>

   <define name="children"> 

       <zeroOrMore>

           <element>

             
 <anyName>

                 
 <except><o:p></o:p>





             
         <nsName/> 

                 
 </except>

             
 </anyName>

               <ref
name="children"></ref>

           </element><o:p></o:p>





       </zeroOrMore>

       <optional>

           <ref
name="interestingElements"></ref>

       </optional>

   </define>



   <define name="interestingElements"> 

       <choice><o:p></o:p>



     
     <externalRef
href=""anythingElseButTest.rng"/><br">
       </choice>

   </define>



</grammar>



You'll see there are more mistakes in the schema. 



<o:p></o:p>



2007/2/7, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jeff Lowery</st1:PersonName>
<jlowery@m...>:<o:p></o:p>





<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>I'm sure you're correct, however the error I get from Jing is
this:<o:p></o:p>

<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p>

<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>C:\ > java -jar \xml\jing-20030619\bin\jing.jar test.rng<o:p></o:p>

<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>C:\ > Test.rng:28:43: error: recursive inclusion of URL
"file:/C:/[…]/Test.rng"<o:p></o:p>







<span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>

I took a better look and you are right, you have also crossed rule 4.6. But if
you try: 



Test.rng:<o:p></o:p>



<span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>

<?xml version="1.0"?>

<grammar

 xmlns=" http://relaxng.org/ns/structure/1.0"<o:p></o:p>





<span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> ns="http://foo.org/bar">



   <start>

       <ref name="children"></ref> 

   </start><o:p></o:p>





<span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>

   <define name="children">

       <zeroOrMore>

           <element>

             
 <anyName>

                 
 <except> <o:p></o:p>





             
         <nsName/>

                 
 </except>

             
 </anyName>

               <ref
name="children"></ref> 

           </element><o:p></o:p>





       </zeroOrMore>

       <optional>

           <ref
name="interestingElements"></ref>

       </optional>

   </define> 



   <define name="interestingElements">

       <choice><o:p></o:p>



<span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>           <externalRef
href=""anythingElseButTest.rng"/><br">
       </choice>

   </define>



</grammar>



You'll see there are more mistakes in the schema.

 <o:p></o:p>



<blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;
margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'>

<span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p>





<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>I now wonder: if all patterns are defined inside a containing
grammar, could one except the container from a contained definition?  That
way, all definitions would be excluded automatically when new ones were added
to the container. Something I'll try later…<o:p></o:p>









<span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>

I'm not sure I can follow.



Radu Cernuta <o:p></o:p>



<blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;
margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'>

<span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p>





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border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color blue'>









<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From: Radu Cernuta [mailto:radu.cernuta@g...]


Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007
1:56 AM

To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jeff
 Lowery</st1:PersonName>

Cc: noah_mendelsohn@u...;
xml-dev@l...

Subject: Re:
[xml-dev] RELAX NG equivalent of <xsd:any
processContents="lax">?<o:p></o:p>



 <o:p></o:p>

Sorry, I've overlooked the <optional> element.
Rule 4.12 comes first in this case and adds a <group>, then 7.15. The
basic idea stays the same: you cannot have several roots in an XML document.<o:p></o:p>











<span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>





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